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adriangr290498 Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2015
Great dude, this images help me to write my book.
ihamo Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2014
Super cool!
CrisRaidanArt Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Que impresionante.
RobCaswell Featured By Owner Oct 31, 2012  Professional General Artist
Love the light an color here. Delivers a delicious, otherworldly mood.
Chris000 Featured By Owner Oct 31, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
This is definitely a port town. You can tell by the atmosphere and the large ships nearby. This is a town that's all about trade.

I'm happy that you included an actual boat! You never see that in science fiction drawings!
solopena Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
fine work
wuestenbrand Featured By Owner Jul 25, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Great Work .. :D ..
ccbig Featured By Owner Jul 25, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Amazing scene! Bravo!
HighTechPictures Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
MarkusVogt Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Hi there!:)

just wanted to let you know that your artwork has been featured in my latest journal. Feel free to take a look at:


RAYetc Featured By Owner Mar 12, 2012
wow.It's perfect.
erichtorn Featured By Owner Mar 9, 2012
Awesome! I bet you used to live in such a world in previous life
erenarik Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Yeah.. I think you are right about that :D
erichtorn Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2012
I am not kidding. In Sanskrit those worlds having high technological advancement are called बिलस्वर्ग (Bila Svarga). It is known as a fact they exist, as given in Vedas
I am from there, and I feel you are from there too based on your paintings
erenarik Featured By Owner Mar 11, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Wow thats interesting..I should research it..Is there any link for get some neat information?
erichtorn Featured By Owner Mar 11, 2012
I must disappoint you if you think there is a single precise source you may consult.
Information is scarce and spread here and there in different scriptures. Additional problem is that over the time some of the people among those preserving (copying) the scriptures (by hand) started inserting their comments - often, and especially in this case, a wrong ones - and/or editing the meaning. Modern translations of many scriptures are extremely imprecise, due to desire of some of the translators-preachers to present the information the way they want.
Thus, over time, बिलस्वर्ग started denoting a whole array of things: hell(s); lower region(s); subterranean heaven(s), heavenly subterranean worlds, ... you name it. The last meaning/translation is the closest to what it used to denote.
The initial meaning of बिलस्वर्ग was "heavenly worlds populated by demons, which worlds are "below" the Earth level". Three things need explanations:

(1) Are they literally below, like an underground/subterranean world? No. So why they are said to be "below" the Earth level? Because in Vedic system there is a kind of a scale, which goes two ways: "below" Earth level, and "above" Earth level. Those are not literal directions, but connotations as to the type of the consciousness, or even better - emotional make-up - of the most intelligent beings residing on those levels. The Earth (Bhur-Loka) is considered to be in-between "lower" and "higher" worlds/Lokas.

(2) Why they are called "heavenly"? (Even more important, why they are sometimes referred to as "imitation heavenly planets" is some scriptures?) The answer is: due to very advanced level of technological development, they managed to reduced suffering to minimum, effectively creating a kind of a technological paradise. However, this abundance of resources and minimization of suffering produced ARTIFICIALLY is the reason why they are sometimes called "imitation heavenly planets" - for example:

eteṣu hi bila-svargeṣu svargād apy adhika-kāma-bhogaiśvaryānanda-bhūti-vibhūtibhiḥ susamṛddha-bhavanodyānākrīḍa-vihāreṣu daitya-dānava-kādraveyā nitya-pramuditānurakta-kalatrāpatya-bandhu-suhṛd-anucarā gṛha-pataya īśvarād apy apratihata-kāmā māyā-vinodā nivasanti

Very rough translation:

"...In these seven planetary systems, which are also known as the subterranean heavens [bila-svarga], there are very beautiful houses, gardens and places of sense enjoyment, which are even more opulent than those in the higher planets because the demons have a very high standard of sensual pleasure, wealth and influence. Most of the residents of these planets, who are known as Daityas, Dānavas and Nāgas, live as householders. Their wives, children, friends and society are all fully engaged in illusory, material happiness. The sense enjoyment of the demigods is sometimes disturbed, but the residents of these planets enjoy life without disturbances. Thus they are understood to be very attached to illusory happiness..." (Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 5.24.8)

There is one scripture having more detailed information, but it has not been translated from Sanskrit to any language yet. It speaks of different Lokas having high technological development. There is also scarce information in Śrīmad Bhāgavatam about lower 7 Lokas: [link] -- Canto 5, Chapter 24.
For example, some people noticed, that in the description of the beings of Rasatala (5.24.30), there is a mention of something called "nivāta-kavacāh". वात (vAta) means "air"; ni- means "no", so निवात (nivAta) is literally "no air"; कवच (kavacāh) means "armor"/"shield"/"shell"/"coat"/"jacket". Therefore निवात कवच is literally "armor/jacket/shell with no air" or "airtight armor/jacket/shell". The list of such allusions to something technological (already recognizable to us) goes on.

(3) Why they are called being "populated by demons"? This is the most hard and subjective question. As seen from the quote above (SB 5.24.8), one of the reasons is that the intelligent beings living in those worlds are said to have a "very high standard of sensual pleasure" and to be "very attached to illusory happiness". Another reason is that there is mostly no worship of any god. Often they are cruel in terms of not tolerating other intelligent beings. They have a very different emotional make-up from humans (what makes them happy is different from what makes an average human happy).
The words of SB 5.24.8 certainly DO NOT apply to many बिलस्वर्ग worlds, because many of those beings do not have attachment to "wife", "children", "family", as well as the very concepts of "wife", "children" and "family" do not exist on many of those levels. The "wife" is just a mating partner, not a static partner for [mutual] emotional satisfaction for the rest of the life; "children" are considered to be shared, meaning that nobody is concerned who was actual biological parent - there is no such thing as "my kids" and "not my kids", they are common, kids considering every adult creature a parent; "family" does not exist because of different emotional make-up, particularly and critically because of an absence of PREFERENTIAL BINDING desire as it is in human society; children are being taken care by the System/Hive, with rotating care-providers and teachers; there is no static "family" by definition, but all Hive is like a big extended Family.
The most distinguishing feature of some of those worlds (how they differ from the "higher" worlds, and what makes them so dangerous to "higher" worlds) is their Unity vision: some races believe in what is equivalent to Swacitta-Buddhism, meaning "I am Everywhere" or "I am Everything": they literally see Others as being Them (I/non-I distinction absent within the Hive). This is not exactly the same as having a shared Consciousness; this is a perception of the world, in which they see any other one of their race to be themselves due to numerous of reasons: physical appearance is very similar, everybody looks like twins or clones, which creates such vision, and this is further reinforced by the Educational System they have in place, which teaches about One Source becoming All of Them. They meditate this way, coming together.
This makes them so dangerous to "higher" worlds, because they do not tolerate other advanced beings, and war with "higher" worlds, but in contrast with "higher" worlds, they have no fear of death and no remorse for their own fallen ones - for One keeps on living in the remaining ones. They can keep going on, and on, and on, attack after attack, emotionally disregarding the number of casualties of their own; the only thing which may stop their attack is cold logic, calculation - if they see time is not right, or they have to retreat to regroup and wait for future suitable time. They never stop. They are like a Plague which sweeps through "higher" worlds from time to time, and there is no end to that war.

tato 'dhastād rasātale daiteyā dānavāḥ paṇayo nāma nivāta-kavacāḥ kāleyā hiraṇya-puravāsina iti vibudha-pratyanīkā utpattyā mahaujaso mahā-sāhasino bhagavataḥ sakala-lokānubhāvasya harer eva tejasā pratihata-balāvalepā bileśayā iva vasanti ye vai saramayendra-dūtyā vāgbhir mantra-varṇābhir indrād bibhyati

Very rough translation:

"Beneath Mahātala is the planetary system known as Rasātala, which is the abode of the demoniac sons of Diti and Danu. They are called Paṇis, Nivāta-kavacas, Kāleyas and Hiraṇya-puravāsīs [those living in Hiraṇya-pura]. They are all enemies of the demigods, and they reside in holes like snakes. From birth they are extremely powerful and cruel, and although they are proud of their strength, they are always defeated by the Sudarśana cakra of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, who rules all the planetary systems. When a female messenger from Indra named Saramā chants a particular curse, the serpentine demons of Mahātala become very afraid of Indra." (SB 5.24.30)

Note - all the translations quoted above are extremely subjective. Translators-preachers used to modify the meaning as they saw fit. For example, the last quote has "tejasā" translated as "Sudarśana cakra" (the supreme weapon of Vishnu), even though तेजस (tejasa) literally means simply "power"/"energy"/ "potency"/"shining substance", "effulgence"/"bright"/"metallic". Thus that part would be:
"...they are always defeated by the {Power/Energy/Effulgence?} of the Lord, who rules all the planetary systems..."


From my experiences, those who come from बिलस्वर्ग - depending of course which particular world/race - more often than not are:

- not attached much to personal property (because in many of those worlds there is no "personal property" - you use what you need, when you need, as much as you need and no more than that - not enforced, comes from inner feeling/understanding; after death whatever can be reused is reused; having no "families" and no "inheritance" the reuse is not tied in any way to any biological relationships);
it is a kind of natural asceticism; in Horoscope chart often Ketu+Venus together in 2nd house;
- not attached much to biological parents in current life;
- have good analytical abilities, and inclination to technical subjects (math, physics, chemistry, biology, architecture, engineering, ...).

Other specifics vary according to the type of race/world. Some can play music, paint, some cannot at all (those who come from worlds with almost non-existent art - like myself). Some can be good in sports, some cannot (some worlds have no sport activities at all). The abilities from past lives are imprinted/carried over into a new life (what is called संस्कार saMskAra - impression on one's mind of deeds performed and experience in a former state of existence), hence these differences.
There are different types of samskaras - mental and physical. Your drawings represent mental samskaras from the strong impressions gained during the life in the previous body in one of the Seven Lokas composing बिलस्वर्
There is no doubt about it, I feel it. That is why I watch you on DeviantArt for the last couple of years
erenarik Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Wow.. so How could you learnt that you are from there.. Hypnotised?
erichtorn Featured By Owner Mar 25, 2012
I could remember my previous human life since the age of 17 (I already identified who I was, what I was doing, and where I worked).
I only got access to my previous non-human life memories at the age of 22 - as far as I understand you cannot remember until you are ready to.

I am engineer by background - I am naturally critical, and I had to ensure that all those memories are not my fantasy. How did I do the verification? I had been studying psychic phenomena for quite a while, and I went to one famous Canadian psychic/medium to see what she can say; I did not provide information about myself, and she didn't know me before - it was a clean experiment. She was able to read information about my previous human life and what she told me was in line with what I did remember myself - she even provided some information which I could not remember, but it was verified to be correct afterwards. It was a first confirmation.
The second confirmation came from mystics in India. I traveled to India for 4 months in 2010, and I met one mystic there, who lives quite remotely, and is not accessible to outside public (I was supposed to meet him, that's why I could). He also was not provided any concrete information about me beforehand, but he also was able to tell the information about my past human life, which was in line with both what I remembered and what previous psychic told me. It was especially impressive given he doesn't know English, and I had his words translated by his disciple from the local dialect, his disciple even not being familiar with what he was actually translating - said disciple couldn't see the whole picture in context, while I could; this mystic wasn't even asking any questions - he just looked at me, that's all he needed; on top of that I was told by his disciple that he knew I would be coming for many years in advance - he knows all who will ever find him in this life.
By virtue of being extremely strong this mystic was also able to see my previous non-human life, and even much more. He confirmed that I am from the बिलस्वर (technical worlds), but he did not want to pursue that topic and go into much details, because he doesn't like those worlds, and restoring my memory from there even further was not a good idea according to him - it causes you to start self-identifying yourself more with that entity rather than human, and at the time of death it might easily cause you to go back there (obtain a new body there/reborn there). He personally likes Earth a lot, he considers it like a kind of a special place - but I disagree. I see a lot of problems here; also, humans have so much emotions, that for majority of them it's hard to impossible to handle them. I prefer less emotions, and more Balance. He calls us demons, but I point to the humans and ask him - are they not real demons? They are successfully continuing destroying themselves together with all the environment which they live in; they have no future. On another hand, the place where I used to live is like a Heaven, sustainable, controlled, balanced, with no pollution, famine, and wars within. Perhaps, being much "colder" emotionally than humans made it possible for us to be able to cooperate much better within... that emotional "coldness" however is not a reason to call us demons, neither absence of the worship of some personal Deity can qualify as a reason. As you see - so many things are subjective...


In terms of hypnosis - yes, I did that one too, quite recently - in October 2011. The person who hypnotized me was able to regress me to my immediate previous life, which is life in non-human body in tech world. He was very surprised with what I was describing, but it was not a surprise for me. He said that higher technological level in the past life comparing to what humans have now is not something he has ever seen in his hypno-sessions.
I could see/remember much more details from that life now, but it also gives much sorrow. It is often hard to live when you have an access to the memories from the past lives - which is why most people don't remember.
Each soul is being reborn (obtains a new body - संसार / μετεμψύχωσις) again and again due to its desire to EXPERIENCE, even more accurately - to ENJOY. However, enjoyment is only possible if the past does not influence you, which happens only in two cases:

- usual people, who have memories blocked, because on the deepest level within they don't want to remember, because otherwise they won't be able to continue thoughtlessly enjoying as easily as they did before


- mystics, who by the virtue of practice for many lives have obtained abilities to see the past lives of theirs as well as of the other people; those mystics are able to experience/enjoy in a very different way than the usual people: they experience/enjoy simultaneously being "dis-attached" to and in constant realization of their Unity with the Source of enjoyment.

I do not belong to either of the above groups: I am not a usual person anymore, yet I am not an advanced mystic yet.
That leaves me on the edge of a razor, when both worlds have a pull on me in opposite directions simultaneously. It is very hard - emotionally, psychologically. Is it worth it? Yes, but the price is dear.

I hope it's a clear explanation why most people do not remember their past lives - they are simply not ready for it. Would they suddenly remember, it would most certainly either make them crazy, or force to suicide, or just break their lives. Usual people can only have one Identity at a time, one set of Self-Identifications. Mystics are completely different story - they are simultaneously Nobody and Everybody; they can Play whatever Games they prefer, and switch to a different role whenever they choose so.


I have couple of cases about past lives that I thoroughly investigated. I can PM you the files if you wish. On that topic - I have a work trip to Asia in 9 hours, and I am gonna meet with one girl in Moscow after my work in Asia is done; that girl has extremely strong memories, and yes, she is also from technical worlds; some files she has sent me are astonishing, that's why I want to meet with her and possibly hypnotize her and/or use other technique to help her remember.
The thing is: once you start remembering, it is better not to stop half-way. Stopping half-way only produces pain and confusion. However, going all the way through will most definitely cause activation of samskaras संस्कार (imprints) from the life you are remembering, and it may partially or even fully "overwrite" your current Identity, while also making the rebirth much more possible to happen in that type of body and world.

The new body and a place of rebirth is a function of:
1) state of consciousness at the time of death, including the last thoughts;
2) the Sum of the tendencies and unfulfilled desires;
3) the Sum of the Self-Identifications, including whom the sangha (connection/association) was with
4) certain actions performed in present and past lives may override the "destination" determined by the above three

It has been said:

saṃkalpanasparśanadṛṣṭimohair grāsāmbuvṛṣṭyā cātmavivṛddhijanma
karmānugāny anukramena dehī sthāneṣu rūpāṇy abhisaṃprapadyate

sankalpana-sparshana-drishti-mohair grasambu-vrishthyatma vivriddha janma
karmanugany anukramena dehi sthaneshu rupany abhisamprapadyate

"By means of desires, contact, attachment and delusion, the embodied soul assumes,
successively, diverse forms in various places, according to its deeds,
just as the body grows when food and drink are poured into it."

(Shvetashvatara Upanishad 5.11)
erenarik Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Wow Eric(i guess you name is?).. I read it all.. speechless..Thanx for long post... I want to talk with you in private if possible .. - msn
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Ard3113 Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
Yes. I do !
HawkWinds Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2012
Love the colours and the city!
afacanx Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2012
mass effect 3'ün çıktığı günde de ne güzel oldu bu resim...
ArgonSKY Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
i like it!
TheSoulofHarmony Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
amazing! ^^
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